tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post5241940731603475253..comments2023-07-05T09:38:23.624+01:00Comments on The Half-Dipper: Wrapper MayhemHobbeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-88383991044567594702011-02-19T09:34:59.653+00:002011-02-19T09:34:59.653+00:00Harumph. Reading the original article reminded me...Harumph. Reading the <a href="http://half-dipper.blogspot.com/2007/10/2005-yisheng-yiwu-zhengshan.html" rel="nofollow">original article</a> reminded me that I bought a tong of this when in Maliandao last year, from Xiaomei's little brother, and so perhaps I'm not in such a hurry to find more. Samples it is.<br /><br />Nonetheless, I'd like a go with the purple cake.Hobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-5527236000760679172011-02-19T09:30:08.151+00:002011-02-19T09:30:08.151+00:00P.s. The Taobao price for the 2005 2-character Dou...P.s. The Taobao price for the 2005 2-character Douji is 350 RMB ($53), which makes Scott's price look very decent.<br /><br />Several Taobao articles also describe Yisheng and Douji as being brands of the same producer, so there we go :)Hobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-39637616520977866402011-02-19T09:23:39.838+00:002011-02-19T09:23:39.838+00:00Nada's Bulang was priced well, I thought - rem...Nada's Bulang was priced well, I thought - remember what you're getting for that price. I bought a tong of that potent little fellow, and happily so!<br /><br /><br />Toodlepip,<br /><br />HobbesHobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-70453494149956888032011-02-19T06:37:31.635+00:002011-02-19T06:37:31.635+00:00That was just a bit 'o fun. Sanhetang wanted ...That was just a bit 'o fun. Sanhetang wanted to sell the LongFeng there for $100, remember?<br /><br />Now, if you want comparative pricing, check out Jas-eteas, and see how much he charged for the spring '07 cakes when he had them, and I remember when there actually were cakes for sale. Then check out the Ban'E--> from $60 to $78 and grab a feel for how well it sells at the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-2001910386178558312011-02-19T05:34:17.321+00:002011-02-19T05:34:17.321+00:00Shah8: Just because the owner of Sanhetang labels ...Shah8: Just because the owner of Sanhetang labels a cake at that price doesn't mean he sells it at that price, nor does it mean that there are any buyers (or, for that matter, that you can sell it back at anything near that price). Tea expos are for advertising purposes, and so all information gathered there needs to be judged accordingly.MarshalNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16776398824139018801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-29094225367420537892011-02-19T04:13:18.230+00:002011-02-19T04:13:18.230+00:00Thanks all for the comments. It's great to re...Thanks all for the comments. It's great to read that the Yisheng and Scott's Douji are likely to be the same.<br /><br />A sample! Yes, a sample would be best to buy first. <br /><br />I'd love to get some more Yisheng, and if the Douji/2-character label is similar in storage, it's a nice opportunity. The tea is very accomplished, and so having it turn up with a different nameHobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-53652769680994296462011-02-19T01:18:56.244+00:002011-02-19T01:18:56.244+00:00A weee bit of fun...
http://item.taobao.com/item....A weee bit of fun...<br /><br />http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=58608647<br /><br />http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=58608585<br /><br />think you can negotiate that guy down?<br /><br />--shah8Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-21369939188804688822011-02-18T21:21:46.324+00:002011-02-18T21:21:46.324+00:00Actually, I guess what can be put much quicker is....Actually, I guess what can be put much quicker is...<br /><br />1) Hobbes already knows how good the cake is, as he's been assured that it's similar.<br /><br />2) This cake is probably more expensive, in part, because it's associated with Douji.<br /><br />3) Hobbes already has a nice big stash of this, acquired when he *should* get a nice, big stash of this, as a suitably Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-21301014952466848822011-02-18T20:53:42.068+00:002011-02-18T20:53:42.068+00:00MarshalN, you have had the direct privilege of tas...MarshalN, you have had the direct privilege of tasting both, to be sure. The shopkeep was also there to reassure you that this was, in fact, made by a well-regarded outfit. I believe/think/estimate that a big part of the expense of brand lies in simply being able to rely on a company's well regard <br /><br />My opposition is directed as someone who see many "Yiwu" from 2005 for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-60163732956829269412011-02-18T19:41:11.311+00:002011-02-18T19:41:11.311+00:00@shah I think it's odd you're bristling at...@shah I think it's odd you're bristling at $59 when XZH 2005 tea would cost you well over $100. :D Douji productions are highly regarded, and Scott has worked the Kunming markets and sold tea long enough for me to trust he's getting real Douji.<br /><br />Also, Hobbes is buying in pounds. After conversion to dollars it's like a 40% discount! :)Bearsbearsbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09957347322026350661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-34424536747867702222011-02-18T19:40:15.190+00:002011-02-18T19:40:15.190+00:00Hobbes: The store from which I purchased my Yishen...Hobbes: The store from which I purchased my Yisheng stocked both -- and the owner of the store made it very clear it was the same outfit. I wasn't paying attention to the name of the maker, but early (pre 06) Douji went through quite a few name changes. I settled on the single character one because I thought it's better, but not because the other one was bad. In 2004 they were known asMarshalNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16776398824139018801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-83635141007005751192011-02-18T18:34:21.442+00:002011-02-18T18:34:21.442+00:00A cake is $59, to add to what is a sizable stock. ...A cake is $59, to add to what is a sizable stock. Surely you meant a sample? My eyes, personally, water at that price, because at the end of the day, a bunch of that cash is for the name. Dayi, Xizihao, all right, 'cause at very worst, I could resell. Yiwu Laojie Yishenghao just doesn't strike the same confidence, so that tea had better be outstanding...<br /><br />--shah8Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-59619782036811653672011-02-18T09:54:01.286+00:002011-02-18T09:54:01.286+00:00Dear MarshalN,
I'm going to have to buy a cak...Dear MarshalN,<br /><br />I'm going to have to buy a cake from Scott now, just to find out :)<br /><br />If I may press you further on the potential equivalence of "Yiwu Zhengshan Tea Co." and "Yiwu Laojie Yishenghao", purely because I have enjoyed cakes from both, do you <i>know</i> that these two are the same factory, or is it your opinion? If the former, may I be a Hobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-53473664730624531152011-02-17T20:57:41.029+00:002011-02-17T20:57:41.029+00:00Thanks for the detailed analysis of the packaging ...Thanks for the detailed analysis of the packaging and genealogy of the two companies. I know when I buy teaware from China to resale I always try to be mindful that the use of lead etc in the glaze is a possibility. It is heartening the folks like you specializing in tea are so cautious with our health.Leliahttp://www.leliasteaware.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-36412083605001102872011-02-17T20:21:30.554+00:002011-02-17T20:21:30.554+00:00Drinking YSLLC's red right now, seems fine to ...Drinking YSLLC's red right now, seems fine to me. Don't have my own Yisheng to compare it to, since they're in HK, but quality wise, I don't think they're very far apart.<br /><br />Early Douji went through a billion name changes. I won't put too much stock in that.MarshalNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16776398824139018801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-66744145771105636072011-02-17T17:35:42.589+00:002011-02-17T17:35:42.589+00:00Dear MarshalN,
If those two cakes are the same,...Dear MarshalN,<br /><br /> If those two cakes are the same, then "Yiwu Zhengshan Tea. Co" = "Yiwu Laojie Yishenghao" ??! Surely not!<br /><br /> I didn't try the knock-off Xingshunxiang, but the various Yiwu Manluo / Changdahao cakes <i>that I bought</i> are quite similar; there were no howlingly bad versions that I tried, put it that way, but then I only bought the Hobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719619695211038389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753589427119541238.post-73315902051428565712011-02-17T17:30:16.442+00:002011-02-17T17:30:16.442+00:00The Yishengs are the same. I tried both, actually...The Yishengs are the same. I tried both, actually, the one and two character versions, and opted for the one character version because I thought the tea is better. Incidentally, I bought samples of YSLLC's recent Yisheng offerings, and will comment on one of those soon, maybe today, even.<br /><br />For the Changda hao and the Xingshunxiang, do you find that some of them are grossly MarshalNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16776398824139018801noreply@blogger.com